Sandra Bullock may be 53, but in her latest film, which she also co-produced, Ocean’s 8, there’s not a shot of her that isn’t perfection.

When I tell her that, Bullock doesn’t accept it as a compliment. Instead she facetiously gives credit to the visual effects supervisor.

“I hate to blow the lid off the fantasy that we are trying to create, but Karen Heston is an incredible visual effects artist, whose job it is to take out the third chin. Karen would come and make us perfect. So, I really want to give credit to Karen Heston who came in and was very diligent in making us look our very best,” Bullock said.

The actress of course has always enjoyed kidding around, but at her New York press junket she’s in a particularly jocular mood.

Except when it comes to talking about her children.

In the three years since I last interviewed her, Bullock has adopted a daughter, something I was unaware of.

You were so devoted to your son (Louis), has anything changed?

Yeah, my daughter. I now have a complete commitment to my son and my daughter. I have a beautiful little girl for the last two years named Laila.

Do they get along well?

As much as they want to kill each other, they fiercely love each other, and they defend each other, even against me. But that’s what you want; you want them to be independent of you.

They are going to be with each other for the rest of their lives, long after I am gone. So, there’s so much love between the two of them.

(From left) Sarah Paulson, Awkwafina, Sandra Bullock, Cate Blanchett, Anne Hathaway and Mindy Kaling at the premiere of Ocean’s 8 in New York City. Photo: AFP

Do you still have a strong circle of friends?

As you get older, your circle of friends gets really small because you realise you are who you are and that you are not going to change. So, those people love you for exactly who you are and they allow you to feel safe being that way. They are the ones who are going to be lifelong (friends).

In Ocean’s 8, you play Debbie, whose brother is Danny from the other Ocean’s movies played by George Clooney. What do you think Debbie has that Danny doesn’t?

Well, breasts. But they are both thieves, and they can’t help themselves. They are a family of thieves, and they are very similar, always on the take, always on the make, and always thinking about what game they can run.

Nothing is ever normal. I think a dinner table with the two of them is all about how are we going to get out of paying the cheque.

Like Debbie, do you believe in revenge?

No, because I am a true believer in karma. I believe that it will come back and kick you in the a** much harder.

I have learned how to forgive and let go – whether someone asks for forgiveness or not – and move on. It just makes life easier.

I think when you plan revenge, nine times out of 10 it doesn’t work. And then you think about it and you have the guilt and maybe the guilt of getting caught. I don’t want that burden. It sounds sexy but I don’t want that.

Sandra Bullock is mother to two children. Photo: AFP

What kind of a team leader are you?

I think a good one, and I think a fair one. I would rather put the group together and let them shine rather than me.

That’s what I did with Ocean’s 8. I know good talent when I see it. And I like to see them shine.

I don’t feel I lose anything when someone else is having a great moment.

When was the first time you hit the jackpot both professionally and personally?

I look back at many jackpots. The first thing that got me noticed was maybe Speed, and my personal life was great then. And then there was another milestone, the movie While You Were Sleeping.

I think my career milestones have allowed me to develop, the same way that my personal life has, when there weren’t camera phones yet.

But I can’t think of something as being a milestone and the end game. Every time I think this is the last time I am going to make a movie, and that I am going to shift gears (and do something else), something always happens that is really special and takes me to a whole other direction that I didn’t see coming.

I like to plan, but as you know, you make plans, God laughs. So everything in my life, all my milestones, have come about without me planning them and so far I have been lucky and life is sweet and everyone is healthy and that’s all I ask.

And your first personal milestone?

Just figuring out who I was and who I wasn’t, and that came really late in life, in the last five years.

Suddenly I realised that the baggage I was carrying wasn’t mine. The mountain I was climbing wasn’t mine. You just sort of let go, and you don’t care anymore.

You stirred up quite a controversy on the The Ellen DeGeneres Show regarding your ‘penis facial’. Do you wish to clarify?

I do because this has gone a bit sideways and in a hurtful way towards me. So, I just want to clarify through humour whatever was said.

EGF, the Epidermal Growth Factor serum, is made from 100% cloned stem cells and other synthetic actives and no actual human foreskin is used. The original cells were donated from a South Korea cell bank in 1986; it actually won the Nobel Peace Prize for wound healing and wound care, and you can buy it on any website on line for US$10 or US$15.

So, I don’t want to talk about penis anymore. There is lot of great work being done in stem cell.

Are there other beauty products you like?

Micro needling. This little roller that is almost like acupuncture, but it’s painful. You roll it up and down and back and forth, and you look like a burn victim.

But it’s worth it, and it helps the collagen rebirth in your skin. So yeah, that is my obsession right now.